RL, R v

RL, R v

Given the grave nature of the offence and the needs of the offenders for stability, discipline, and structure, the sentences of 3 years and 2 years' detention were appropriate and not excessive; appeals dismissed.

Parties
Applicant: R; Applicant: L; Respondent: Regina
Jurisdiction
England and Wales
Judgment Date
04 March 2005
Procedural Posture
Criminal Appeal / Judgment on Appeal Against Sentence
Outcome
appeals dismissed
Legal Topics
Arson, Sentencing of Minors, Detention Orders, Recklessness, Welfare Considerations
Criminal Law Juvenile Justice Arson Sentencing of Minors Detention Orders Recklessness Welfare Considerations

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Parties

R

Applicant

L

Applicant

Regina

Respondent

Procedural Posture

Criminal Appeal / Judgment on Appeal Against Sentence

Legal Issues

  1. 1 Whether the sentences of detention imposed on two juvenile offenders for arson being reckless as to whether life was endangered were excessive or wrong in principle
  2. 2 Whether the welfare and needs of the offenders justified a non-custodial sentence

Ratio Decidendi

Given the grave nature of the offence and the needs of the offenders for stability, discipline, and structure, the sentences of 3 years and 2 years' detention were appropriate and not excessive; appeals dismissed.

Court Disposition

appeals dismissed

Orders

  • Sentences of 3 years' detention for R and 2 years' detention for L upheld