HKSAR v. BASHIR AHMED
- Citation
- HKSAR v. BASHIR AHMED
- Status
- Judgment
- Jurisdiction
- Hong Kong
- Court
- Court of First Instance
- Decision
- 8 February 2012
- Posture
- Magistracy Appeal (hcma 830/2011) / Judgment on Appeal (court of First Instance)
- Case number
- HCMA830/2011
- Language
- English
More details
- Court
- Court of First Instance
- Decision
- 8 February 2012
- Posture
- Magistracy Appeal (hcma 830/2011) / Judgment on Appeal (court of First Instance)
- Case number
- HCMA830/2011
- Language
- English
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Holding and result
Credit of 36 days detention should be given and a modest additional reduction for the appellant's truthful admission and remorse is appropriate, resulting in reduction of the total sentence from 18 months to 16 months while affirming the magistrate's original sentencing starting point.
Court disposition
Appeal allowed in part: total sentence reduced to 16 months imprisonment
Orders
- Total sentence reduced to 16 months imprisonment
- Credit of 36 days detention by Immigration Department awarded
- Original sentence starting point of the magistrate affirmed (no criticism)
02
Material facts
Parties
HKSAR
Respondent Counsel: Ms Peggy Leung, Senior Public ProsecutorBashir Ahmed
Appellant Counsel: Self-representedAmounts and remedies
- Original Total Sentence (months): 18
- Adjusted Total Sentence (months): 16
- Detention Credit (days): 36
03
Procedural history
Posture
Magistracy Appeal (hcma 830/2011) / Judgment on Appeal (court of First Instance)
04
Questions and positions
Legal issues
- 01
Whether 36 days in Immigration Department custody should be deducted from sentence
- 02
Whether total sentence of 18 months was excessive or appealable
- 03
Appropriate overlap of two 15-month sentences to total 18 months
Party arguments
- Applicant
- Appellant sought deduction of 36 days spent in Immigration Department custody and emphasised he told the truth from the start, respected the law, was sorry and had admitted his guilt.
- Respondent
- Respondent confirmed the 36 days detention and did not oppose deduction; respondent maintained that 18 months total was predictable and appropriate absent exceptional circumstances.
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Court’s reasoning
Legal principles
- 01
Magistrate practice affirmed by Court of First Instance in judgment
Detention time prior to sentencing should be credited against the sentence
- 02
Sentencing principles / Court practice
Overlapping sentences may be ordered to reflect concurrent operation where appropriate
- 03
Sentencing practice
Guilty plea, prompt admission and remorse may justify modest reduction in sentence
- 04
Registration of Persons Ordinance Cap.177 s7A(1)(a); Immigration Ordinance s38A(a)(1)(a)
Use of another person's identity card and unauthorised employment constitute offences under the relevant statutory provisions
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Ratio, limits and disposition
Ratio decidendi
Credit of 36 days detention should be given and a modest additional reduction for the appellant's truthful admission and remorse is appropriate, resulting in reduction of the total sentence from 18 months to 16 months while affirming the magistrate's original sentencing starting point.
Obiter and limits
- 18 months as a total in those circumstances is entirely predictable and, absent very exceptional circumstances, un-appealable
- Magistrates habitually make a deduction for prior detention by the Immigration Department
Court disposition
Appeal allowed in part: total sentence reduced to 16 months imprisonment
- Total sentence reduced to 16 months imprisonment
- Credit of 36 days detention by Immigration Department awarded
- Original sentence starting point of the magistrate affirmed (no criticism)
Source and reliance status
Court of First Instance · 8 February 2012
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Judgment text
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Court of First Instance
Judgment· 8 February 2012
bjbj P"(P. HCMA 830/2011
IN THE HIGH COURT OF THE
HONG KONG SPECIAL ADMINISTRATIVE REGION
COURT OF FIRST INSTANCE MAGISTRACY APPEAL NO. 830 OF 2011 (ON APPEAL FROM FLCC 2861 OF 2011) ____
BETWEEN HKSAR Respondent and BASHIR AHMED Appellant ____ Before: The Honourable Mr Justice Line in Court Date of Hearing: 8 February 2012 Date of Judgment: 8 February 2012 ______
J U D G M E N T _______ This is an appeal against a total sentence of 18 months imprisonment. The appellant had pleaded guilty to two charges; one of using an identity card relating to another person, contrary to section 7A(1)(a) of the Registration of Persons Ordinance, Cap. 177; and another offence of taking employment while being a person who remains in Hong Kong without the authority of the Director of Immigration, contrary to section 38A(a)(1)(a) of the Immigration Ordinance. In respect of each offence a sentence of 15 months imprisonment was passed but they were overlapped to create the total of 18 months. The appellant had arrived in Hong Kong illegally on 13 March 2008. He was released upon a recognisance. On 10 November 2011 he was found working in a kitchen. He had secured that employment in April of 2011 using another s identity card. In other words, the use of the identity card had successfully procured for him seven months of employment here. I need not rehearse all the authorities because they are so well known, 18 months imprisonment as a total in those circumstances is entirely predictable and in the absence of some very exceptional circumstances is un-appealable. However, what the appellant puts before me today is a plea that some 36 days which he spent in the custody of the Immigration Department since his arrival in Hong Kong should be deducted
from his sentence. The respondents confirm that period of detention and do not seek to argue against such a deduction. As I understand it magistrates habitually make such a deduction in these circumstances. Accordingly, I shall give credit for those 36 days and I shall give just a little bit more credit because it makes the mathematics the easier and because of what the appellant added to his case today by saying to me that he told the truth from the beginning, he had respect for the law, he was sorry that he had broken it and that he had been quick to own up to it. In those circumstances rather than deal with the 16 months and just a few days I shall reduce the sentence to one of 16 months imprisonment but making clear that I have no criticism of the original sentence and its starting point taken by the magistrate. (P Line) Judge of the Court of First Instance of the High Court Ms Peggy Leung, Senior Public Prosecutor of the Department of Justice, for the Respondent Appellant appeared in person
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