KL (CA753/2020) v R [2021] NZCA 375
The Court held the jury could reasonably accept the child's core allegation giving rise to the representative Charge 1 while acquitting on other counts because inconsistencies and matters favourable to the defence (including potential coaching, timing, frequency and context discrepancies) were matters the jury could...
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- Citation
- [2021] NZCA 375
- Parties
- Appellant: KL; Respondent: The Queen
- Court
- Court of Appeal
- Jurisdiction
- New Zealand
- Judgment Date
- 11 August 2021
- Procedural Posture
- Criminal Appeal (conviction) / Court of Appeal Judgment on Appeal and Fresh Evidence Application
- Outcome
- Application to adduce fresh evidence declined; appeal dismissed.
- Legal Topics
- Unreasonable Verdict, Inconsistent Verdicts, Fresh Evidence, Miscarriage of Justice, Credibility of Child Witness, Non‑party Disclosure
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Parties
KL
Appellant
The Queen
Respondent
Procedural Posture
Criminal Appeal (conviction) / Court of Appeal Judgment on Appeal and Fresh Evidence Application
Legal Issues
- 1 Whether the jury's guilty verdict on a representative indecent act charge was unreasonable or inconsistent with acquittals on related counts
- 2 Whether fresh evidence (Report of Concern) should be admitted on appeal and whether its absence created a real risk of miscarriage of justice
- 3 Assessment of child complainant credibility and the effect of alleged coaching by parent
Ratio Decidendi
The Court held the jury could reasonably accept the child's core allegation giving rise to the representative Charge 1 while acquitting on other counts because inconsistencies and matters favourable to the defence (including potential coaching, timing, frequency and context discrepancies) were matters the jury could permissibly resolve against the defence; the ROC was ambiguous and insufficiently cogent to be admitted as fresh evidence or to establish a real risk of miscarriage of justice; accordingly fresh evidence application was declined and the appeal dismissed.
Court Disposition
Application to adduce fresh evidence declined; appeal dismissed.
Orders
- Application to adduce fresh evidence declined.
- Appeal dismissed.
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KL (CA753/2020) v R [2021] NZCA 375 [11 August 2021]NOTE: PUBLICATION OF NAME, ADDRESS, OCCUPATION ORIDENTIFYING PARTICULARS OF COMPLAINANT PROHIBITED BYSS 203 AND 204 OF THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE ACT 2011.IN THE COURT OF APPEAL OF NEW ZEALANDI TE KŌTI PĪRA O AOTEAROACA753/2020[2021] NZCA 375BETWEEN KL (CA753/2020)AppellantAND THE QUEENRespondentHearing: 24 June 2021Court: Gilbert, Brewer and Hinton JJCounsel: M B Dodds for AppellantZ R Johnston for RespondentJudgment: 11 August 2021 at 2 pmJUDGMENT OF THE COURTA The application to adduce fresh evidence is declined.B The appeal is dismissed.____________________________________________________________________REASONS OF THE COURT(Given by Brewer J)Introduction[1] KL was tried by a jury on seven charges alleging sexual and violent offendingagainst his six-year-old son (TL).1 The jury found KL guilty of one representativecharge of doing an indecent act on a child under 12 (Charge 1).2 The jury found KLnot guilty on the other six charges, being five further charges of doing an indecent acton a child under 12 and one charge of assault on a child.3[2] KL now appeals his conviction on Charge 1 on the following grounds:(a) The jury's verdict was unreasonable and inconsistent with its verdictson the other charges.(b) There was a miscarriage of justice because further evidence has becomeavailable which might have led to a finding of not guilty on Charge 1 ifit had been put before the jury.[3] Our task is to decide whether the jury's verdict on Charge 1 was unreasonableor inconsistent with the other verdicts, or whether otherwise there has been amiscarriage of justice.4 A miscarriage of justice will have occurred if there has beenany error, irregularity, or occurrence that has created a real risk that the outcome ofthe trial was affected, or that has resulted in an unfair trial.5The charges[4] TL gave two evidential video interviews (EVIs). Their contents foundedthe charges faced by KL. In summary, the charges were:(a) Charge 1. Indecent act on TL. (Representative charge).1 KL does not have name suppression. Notwithstanding, we have anonymised this judgmentfollowing the approach in H v R [2019] NZSC 69, [2019] 1 NZLR 675 at [54]–[58] to enable it tobe republished online without identifying the complainant.2 Crimes Act 1961, s 132(3).3 Section 194(a).4 Criminal Procedure Act 2011, s 232(2).5 Section 232(4)."Particulars: Contact with the child's penis by the defendant's hand(s)when in the bed."(b) Charge 2. Indecent act on TL. (Representative charge)."Particulars: Grabbing the child's hand(s) and moving it towardthe defendant's penis in the bed."(c) Charge 3. Indecent act on TL. (Representative charge)."Particulars: Contact with child's penis by the defendant's hand(s) inthe shower."(d) Charge 4. Indecent act on TL. (Representative charge)."Particulars: Grabbing the child's hand(s) and moving it towardsthe defendant's penis in the shower."(e) Charge 5. Indecent act on TL."Particulars: Contact with the child's penis on the occasion whensqueezed child's throat."(f) Charge 6. Assault on TL."Particulars: Squeezing throat."(g) Charge 7. Indecent act on TL on 30 June 2019."Particulars: Contact with the child's penis."The evidence[5] When an appeal against conviction is brought on the grounds of anunreasonable verdict and inconsistent verdicts it is necessary to examine the relevantevidence that was before the jury in detail. This is particularly necessary for TL, whowas six years old when he gave both of his EVIs. We will quote relevant passages toillustrate how he gave his answers to questions in the context of the issues we have toanswer.[6] TL was the principal witness for the prosecution. After the Crown opened, histwo EVIs were played to the jury. In the first, conducted on 19 July 2019, are thesepassages:JM Pretty cool. So you know you and I have only just met haven't [weTL]. So how about, [TL], how about you tell me some of the funthings you like to do.TL So I like playing in the playground. Some people attack me but I just,I'm too fast for them so that's lucky. Yeah. But at home when mydad gets into bed with me and then he starts touching my private parts.That's what's bad about my dad so he, so my mum and my dad areliving away from each other.JM Okay. So tell me some more about the touching of the private parts.TL So when he gets into bed with me he touches (inaudible) private partsso and I don't know why he does that.JM Oh, so what do you mean by private parts?TL He touches my willy.JM Oh and what's the job of your willy?TL Nothing, he just touches it for no reason.JM Okay. [TL].TL What.JM Tell me more about dad touching your willy.TL I don't know any much more. I don't know how to explain the rest.JM It can be hard to explain these things can't it, okay. So tell me allabout dad getting into bed with you.TL So when my dad gets into bed with me because he really, really likesme. He really, he just (inaudible) so he hops into bed with me.And then he just, and he just (inaudible) but he's afraid of dark so thenhe, so then he starts touching (inaudible) willy.JM Okay, okay. So you said daddy, dad hops into bed, into your bed andwhat's the very next thing?TL He just starts touching my willy.JM I, I sort of need to know more about that touching of the willy andhow it all happens. Can you help me?TL I don't really know how to explain it.JM Okay. So what does dad touch your willy with?TL With his hands.JM Tell me all about dad's hands when he's touching your willy.TL He, he said he's touching it by accident when he's touching it onpurpose.JM Oh, tell me about that purpose.TL Ah he never listens to me. So he doesn't really (inaudible) and he'sreally mean.JM So you said he touches your willy with his hand. Tell me all about hishand when it's doing that touching.TL He like squeezes it.JM Ah ha and then what happens?TL Ah, ah I just, I push him out of my bed and I say it's mine. That's all.That's all I do to him when he does that. He's the strongest person inour family. So he is, so he can beat me up easily.JM Okay so when he squeezes your willy, how does that feel?TL It feel good, he's the strongest.JM Pardon?TL He's the strongest in the family.[7] TL is then asked for more detail and he repeats, in a similar way and withage-appropriate discursions, the core allegation of KL touching TL's penis when he isin bed at night. That evidence is the foundation for Charge 1 (KL touching TL's penisin bed).[8] Later in the first EVI, TL gives the evidence which founds Charge 2 (movingTL's hands towards his penis in bed):JM Mm okay. So tell me more about his willy.TL My dad's willy?JM Mm.TL Oh he forces me to touch his when I just (inaudible) my hand away.JM Mm, [TL] tell me more about dad forcing you to touch his.TL He's not really (inaudible) and I don't really know how to explain it.JM How does dad force you to do that stuff with his willy?TL He just, he just holds my hand and he pulls it towards him which I ripit out of his hands. Every time he squeezes it.JM Ah ha.TL So I have a sore shoulder from doing that.JM Ah ha.TL He can break my arm if I, he can break my arm he's so strong.JM Mm, so he forces you to touch his willy and then what happens?TL I kick him out of bed.JM Okay so tell me about, about his willy when that's happening.TL Um he just, he just brings his willy away.JM Oh I don't understand that [TL], can you help me a bit more.TL I don't really know how to explain it.JM So when he brings his willy away, what do you mean by away?TL So he's like, he's (inaudible), he's that way but his head's facingbehind him and he's putting his hand in my pants.JM Ah ha.TL That's what he, that's what he was meaning.JM Oh okay. So does, when you say dad gets you to do stuff with hiswilly, what sort of stuff happens?TL He just grabbed my hand that's all.JM He grabs your hand.TL Pulls it towards him and his willy (inaudible) and stuff.JM So he pulls it towards his willy and then what happens?TL Nothing else. He, I just (inaudible) my hands away.JM Okay. So does your willy get to his, does your hand get to his willyor not?TL No.[9] Charges 3 and 4 (KL touching TL's penis and moving TL's hands towards hisown penis while in the shower) are also founded on TL's evidence in his first EVI.The following passages are relevant:JM Okay so have you ever seen your dad's willy?TL In the shower.JM Ah ha okay. And when he pulls your hand to his willy, where is hiswilly?TL His willy.JM Where is his willy when he pulls your hand to his willy?TL His willy's right like there, his willy's there.JM Ah ha and is his willy inside his clothes or outside his clothes orsomething else?TL He's in the shower, wanting me to touch it in the shower and inthe bed.JM Oh okay, 'cos I, I didn't understand that, okay. So can you tell memore about what happens in the shower?TL Um just (inaudible) happens.JM You said he forces you to?TL Touch his willy in the shower.JM In the shower.TL As well as the bed.JM As well as in the bed. So in the shower, tell me all about dad and whathe's like in the shower.TL Um, he's (inaudible) he is all crazy. He takes (inaudible), he takes mydinner. So that's what he always does.JM So dad, so dad is in the shower and then what happens?TL He, I, I just, I just go over to the shower and tell, tell on him.JM What do you tell on him about?TL That he been touching my willy (inaudible).JM Mm, [TL], where are you in the shower?TL In the corner, he pushes me out of the hot water and I just gotten in.JM He pushes you out of the hot water, ae, and then what happens?TL I get really cold.JM Mm and then what happens?TL They don't, he didn't, he never lets me go into the shower.JM Ah ha.TL My mum sends me in with him and I, and I don't like, when I don'twant him in with me.JM Mm. So you're in the shower with, with dad and he puts you inthe corner and you get cold and then what happens?TL I get out of the shower.JM Okay.TL I haven't had a shower. I've just had one this morning.JM So does anything happen with willies in the shower?TL He just gets, does the same thing as in bed.JM Ah ha tell me about that, what does he do?TL Just does same thing as he just (inaudible) my willy.JM Okay. How many times has he done that in the shower?TL Seven.JM Mm okay. And tell me all about dad's willy when he's in the shower?TL Um he just washes his willy then he pulls his hand, then he pulls myhand.JM Pulls your hand. Tell me more about him pulling your hand inthe shower.TL Pulls my hand to his willy.JM Ah ha and then what happens?TL I just, I didn't know that he pulled my, that he was pulling my hand tohis willy so I forgot to rip it away.JM Okay and then what happened?TL Then I just got out of the shower, told my mum, then I went to bed.JM So when you didn't rip your hand away, what happened next?TL I was, I was (inaudible), I was writing a picture on the glass and thenmy dad forced my hand to touch his willy and then I had to run out ofthe shower to tell my mum.JM Okay, so what was it like when you touched his willy?TL It was hard slimy.JM Ah ha. Tell me more about dad's willy when you touched it inthe shower?TL It was hard and slimy and (inaudible).JM Okay so he, he got you to touch his willy. How did you have to touchhis willy?TL Um he just rip, he rips my hand towards his willy. He just does that(demonstrates).JM Ah ha. And you said it was hard and slimy. Tell me about it beingslimy.TL It's slimy because he always, because he always sticks in showerbefore he rips my shower to it.JM So he gets you to touch it and it feels hard and slimy and then whathappens?TL Um just get out of the shower.JM Okay, okay so tell me of anything else that happens with dad.TL No nothing else.[10] The second EVI, conducted on 4 September 2019, led to Charge 5 andCharge 6 (KL squeezing TL's throat while touching TL's penis). TL said:JM Okay. So you've come back about your Dad. Tell me more aboutyour Dad that you've come back about.TL He's been squeezing my throat.JM Uh huh.TL So that's how my Dad, that's how my, how my Dad would touch mypenis and I called out for Mum. But he didn't let me because I, hewas holding my throat.JM Oh okay.TL He cleans fingers. (Referring to play dough)JM So you told me about some of that stuff last time eh. So what's, what'sthe bit you've come to tell me about this time.TL Been choking a throat (Inaudible).JM Oh okay.TL And it was really scary.JM Uh huh.TL Cause I couldn't breathe.JM Okay. Well you know what, [TL]?TL And he's been forcing me to go to school. Get ready quick. And I gotvery upset with (Inaudible).JM Mmm.[11] TL went on to say that this was a single incident which happened in his bed "inthe brewery". That is a reference to an outbuilding near the family home which wasused for fermenting specialist foods which were sold by TL's parents as part ofa business they were establishing.[12] After TL's two EVIs were played, TL was asked questions inexamination-in-chief before being cross-examined. He maintained his allegations.[13] The defence case was that TL's mother (VS) had decided to leave KL morethan a year before she did. VS did not want to share custody of TL with KL andtherefore coached TL to make false allegations against his father. The followingpassages of cross-examination of TL are relevant to this theory:Q. [TL], I was asking you about the break when you went into OrangaTamariki and talked with Ethan and Charlene okay?A. Mhm.Q. Before you went and talked with Ethan and Charlene, was Mummytelling you that Papa was a bad man?A. Yes.Q. Yeah. And had Mama been asking you if Papa did bad things to you?A. Yes.Q. Did it feel like Mama wanted you to say something bad about Dad?A. Um, a bit.Q. Yeah. You like making Mama happy?A. Yeah.Q. Right. And to make Mama happy, did you tell Mama that Papa hadasked to touch your penis?A. Pardon?Q. Did you tell Mama that Papa had asked you about touching your penis,or Papa touching your penis?A. Um, no.Q. Nothing like that?A. No. He just did it.Q. Sorry?A. He just did it.Q. So he didn't ask for permission, he didn't say: "Can I do this [TL]?"A. No, he didn't, he just did it.Q. Right, and what I'm asking you about is, did you tell Mama that Papaasked if he could touch your penis?A. Um, no.Q. Are you sure about that?A. Yes, I am sure.Q. Okay. When you talked with Ethan and Charlene, had Mama told youwhat to say?A. Ah, yeah.Q. Had Mama told you to tell Ethan and Charlene that Papa had beentouching your willy at night?A. Yeah.Q. Right. And so you told Ethan and Charlene that Papa had beentouching your willy at night in bed?A. Yeah.Q. Yeah? But that wasn't true, was it?A. It was true.Q. So you really only saying what Mama wanted you to say?A. Yeah.Q. Mama wanted you to tell a lie?A. She didn't want me to tell a lie, she wanted me to, um, say that Dad'sbeen touching my penis, because he was been touching my penis.Q. You told us that Mama said to you that Papa was a bad man?A. 'Cos he is.Q. Right. Does Mama still tell you that?A. Yeah.Q. Right. And does Mama still tell you that Papa's a liar?A. Yeah.[In re-examination:]Q. So, you said to us just before that Mama did tell you what to say atthe first interview with Ethan and Charlene. Do you remember sayingthat?A. Yeah. I didn't know what to say then, so she just told me what to say.Q. Okay. How did Mummy know what to say?A. Because I told her that Dad has been squeezing my penis and stuff,and she just told me to talk about that and stuff.[14] The next significant witness of fact was VS. In evidence-in-chief she referredto the evening of 30 June 2019 (when the incident leading to Charge 7 occurred) anddescribed the appellant putting TL to bed:A. I could hear them mucking around down in the bedroom and playingup, and [KL] had a habit of winding [TL] up right before bed, whichwasn't helpful to getting him to sleep, and he was difficult to sleepanyway. So, that was tricky and we still had a lot of work to do, so Idid want [TL] to settle and [KL] to be able to come back to help, sothat we could get the work done, and so I called out down the hallwayand said: "Come on guys settle down, it's bedtime". Sorry I'veforgotten the question.Q. That's fine. So, you call out and say settle down it's bedtime. Do theysettle down?A. Yes, yep. They do settle down. I hear [KL] say something minimisingabout me stopping all their fun and then they do settle down, yes.Q. And then what happens? What was brought to your attention?A. Then I hear [TL] call out: "Ouch, stop, you're pinching my penis" orwords to that effect.Q. What do you do?A. Yeah, a bit of a shock and I stood up and go straight down there,because I think it doesn't feel right.Q. Do you go into [TL's] room?A. Yeah, the lights are out and I go in, and [KL] is getting out of [TL's]bed and into the chair that we had in the bedroom, and I stand inthe hallway, in the doorway and I just said: "What's going on? [TL],are you okay? What's going on?" and his – and his little voice says:"Yeah, I'm okay Mummy". I kind of look over to where [KL] issitting now in the chair. He hasn't said anything. I said: "What'sgoing on? Everything okay" and he just – he had this way he wouldjust dismiss me. He wouldn't – often wouldn't have conversationwith me, and he had his phone and he was sitting in the chair, and hewas looking at his phone like it was much more important than whatwas going on in the room. I don't know what he was doing on hisphone, most probably, I don't know, reading news or playing a game,I don't know.[15] VS said that after two days of domestic tension she took TL and leftthe appellant, travelling to stay with friends in Tauranga. She said that two or threedays later TL disclosed he had been abused by the appellant:A. And when we got down to Tauranga and we were staying with[friends], on the Sunday morning it was, I remember all that quitevividly time-wise, um, [TL] was asleep on a mattress on the floor inthe spare bedroom and he, as little ones do, woke up really early andthe [friends] work really hard and they do long days and they'reolder people, and he was awake bouncing around at 6 o'clock inthe morning, so I said: "Just quiet, you know, shhh, come into bedwith Mummy", and I put a podcast on my phone under the pillow forhim. And he was listening to this podcast and, um, and he started to,um, fondle himself, his private area himself, in a way that he shouldn'treally be doing at his age, and in bed next to me, and I said: "What areyou doing? You can't do that, you must stop", you know, "You can'tdo that in bed with me." And he said: "Well why not? Papa does itwith me all the time?"Q. So when he said that to you, what did you do?A. My blood just ran cold really, because I could believe that to be true,and my mind racing, just racing, and I thought well I've got to figureout whether that's accidental, is it – has he – is it an accidental brushor, you know? That's what's going through my mind and he'sstopped, he's listening to the podcast, and I'm basically freaking out,but not showing him that, just keeping calm.Q. Well what do you do?A. I said: "Well, you know, what do you mean?" And he said: "Well he– you know, we do this all the time, we, this happens, touching."I said: "Do you – what do you mean? Does Papa touch you, or do youtouch him?" And he said: "Well both." I'm thinking: "Oh, my God."And I thought, well Sorry.Q. That's okay, take your time.A. I said: "Um, well what does it feel like?", thinking was he, you know,he shouldn't, you know, he's so little, "What does it feel like?", tryingto stay calm, and he said: "Hard and slimy", and I thought, "Oh, God."Q. So when you said to him: "What does it feel like?", did you identifywhat you were asking it felt like?A. No, I just said: "What does it feel like when that touching'shappening?" "What do you mean?" "What does it feel like?"He said: "Hard and slimy", and I thought: "Well that's not right", and,um, I only – I knew that I had to not ask him any more questions, Ijust knew that this was out of my field of – this is – I needed to talk tosomebody else, and I only asked him one more question, I just said:"Has Papa ever taken any photos of you without your clothes on?",and he said: "No."[16] In cross-examination, Mr Dodds put the defence case to VS effectively. It isdifficult to be sure as an appellate court reading the transcript of the evidence, butMr Dodds made significant progress in portraying VS as a person who had a motiveto coach TL to make false complaints, or to embroider them.[17] The defence called KL, who gave evidence sympathetic to his case and whowas not shaken in cross-examination, and then a series of witnesses who variouslyattested to the outwardly warm relationship between TL and KL, and statements madeby VS which tended to support the defence theory that VS had a plan to leavethe appellant and a wish not to share with him the care and custody of TL.First ground of appeal — unreasonable and inconsistent verdict on Charge 1KL's submissions[18] KL submits there is a logical link between Charge 1, Charge 2 and Charge 5.There is a particularly strong link between Charge 1 and Charge 2 in that Charge 1alleges the appellant touched TL's penis while in TL's bed and Charge 2 alleges thaton these occasions the appellant grabbed TL's hand and moved it towardsthe appellant's penis. The conviction on Charge 1 is therefore inconsistent withthe acquittals on Charges 2 and 5.[19] KL submits also that the conviction on Charge 1 was unreasonable becauseTL's reliability and/or veracity had been so undermined that there was no proper basisfor accepting the Charge 1 allegation. The submission is that the doubts that musthave led to the acquittals on Charges 2 and 5 were just as germane to Charge 1.[20] The basis for KL's submission that TL's reliability was significantlyundermined is:(a) There was a "tunnel" or passageway linking the wardrobe in TL'sbedroom with that in his parents' bedroom. KL had it constructed whenthe house was built as a play area for TL. However, contrary to TL'sevidence, it never had a door, a lock or a light. TL's evidence that hetried to block the tunnel to try to stop his father coming into hisbedroom, but that his father just "breaks it" and now there is a "rip inthe tunnel" is untrue.Further, KL points to TL's reaction when shown photographs ofthe tunnel which make it clear that his account is inaccurate.TL's response was to defend his position by saying, "[they have]basically redone the tunnel", that the damage caused by his fatherbreaking into the tunnel had been repaired by painting, and that hismother did not want the lock there but KL kept putting the lock backon. Finally, TL retreated to saying KL had told him there was a doorthere "but I didn't really see it":Q. Okay. And did you not see Dad smash this door?A. No, I didn't, but Mum told me he did.Q. Ah, Mum told you?A. Yeah.(b) TL's statement that KL had offended against him for his whole life, orsince he was two years old, is also wrong since the house in whichthe alleged offending occurred was not completed until shortly beforeTL's 4th birthday.(c) TL's oral evidence at trial as to the frequency of the allegations coveredby Charge 1 and Charge 2 differed materially from the frequencydescribed in his EVIs. In evidence, TL said the squeezing of his penishad occurred about 10 times and that in bed KL had pulled TL's arm tothe appellant's penis once. In his EVIs he said that both happened onsix occasions.(d) In his evidence at trial, TL differed also from his EVIs as to when theabuse occurred. In his oral evidence he said it occurred since he was"about 6 and a half or something".[21] KL also submits also that TL's credibility was seriously compromised by hisevidence about sleeping in the brewery and being offended against in the brewery.In his second EVI on 4 September 2019, TL said that he was in his bed in the brewery,that KL was also in the bed and that is when KL squeezed TL's throat and touchedTL's penis. As we said, these allegations founded Charges 5 and 6.[22] TL said that this happened once and that he told his mother in the morning.In his oral evidence, TL said that his mother would let him sleep in the brewery whenhe had had enough of his father and that he slept on a mattress that his mother broughtdown to the brewery.[23] The evidence of VS is that on rare occasions while they were working late atnight in the brewery she and KL would take a mattress to the brewery so that TL couldgo to sleep there rather than be left alone in the house. They would return him to hisbed when they left. Further, VS confirmed that TL never told her about any offendingby KL until after she had left KL and taken TL away. We have already quoted VS'sevidence of the disclosure of sexual touching. Her evidence of the disclosure ofthe squeezing to the throat was that it came completely "out of the blue" some daysafter the initial EVI.[24] Similarly, for Charges 3 and 4 (the offending in the shower), TL said that hewould tell his mother about this offending. VS said he did not.[25] KL further submits that TL's credibility in relation to Charges 3 and 4 is alsocompromised by inconsistencies in the reported number of occasions it occurred.In his first EVI, TL said the offending had occurred on seven occasions. At trial, thatnumber rose to about 10 times in the shower when KL squeezed TL's penis and aboutthree times in the shower when KL pulled TL's hand to his penis.[26] The overall submission is that the very factors which led the jury to acquit onCharges 2 to 7 were equally operative in respect of Charge 1. The conviction onCharge 1 is therefore said to be unreasonable and inconsistent.[27] Mr Dodds suggested that the verdict of guilty on Charge 1, in thesecircumstances, has the hallmarks of an illegitimate compromise by the jury.Discussion[28] An unreasonable verdict is one where the jury could not reasonably have beensatisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the appellant was guilty.6[29] The test to be applied was set out by this Court in R v Munro:76 R v Owen [2007] NZSC 102, [2008] 2 NZLR 37 at [17].7 R v Munro [2007] NZCA 510, [2008] 2 NZLR 87. This case discussed the approach to a groundof appeal under s 385(1)(a) of the Crimes Act, the predecessor to s 232 of the Criminal ProcedureAct. However, the Supreme Court has confirmed that s 232 does not make any material changeto the approach taken to conviction appeals under s 385: see Haunui v R [2020] NZSC 153 at[86] The correct approach to a ground of appeal under s 385(1)(a) is toassess, on the basis of all of the evidence, whether a jury acting reasonablyought to have entertained a reasonable doubt as to the guilt of the appellant.We consider the word "ought" is a better indication of the exercise to beconducted than the word "must" used in Ramage.8 It emphasises the task thatthe court has to perform. This test also, in our view, accords with the statutorywording.[87] We consider that McLachlin J's comments in R v W(R) encapsulatethe main elements of the test.9 The test is not whether the verdict is one thatno jury could possibly have come to. A verdict will be deemed unreasonablewhere it is a verdict that, having regard to all the evidence, no jury couldreasonably have reached to the standard of beyond reasonable doubt .The Court must always, however, keep in mind that it is not the arbiter of guilt,and that reasonable minds might disagree on findings of fact [88] While we have rejected the English "lurking doubt" approach, weconsider, like the Canadian Supreme Court, that that concept provides a usefultrigger for a fuller review. A lurking doubt or uneasiness experienced bythe appellate court may be an important indication that the verdict was notreasonable or unsupportable on the evidence. However, by itself a "lurkingdoubt" is not sufficient grounds on which an appeal court should deema conviction to be unsafe. The law in New Zealand has always required anappellate court to recognise that reasonable minds might disagree on findingsof fact and that the jury, not the appellate court, is the ultimate arbiter of fact.It is only where a jury's verdict is unreasonable on all the evidence (inthe sense described above at [86] – [87]) that an appeal court may properlydiffer from it.[89] Finally, we note that an appellant must be able to point to a sufficientfoundation for his or her submission that a ground of appeal under s 385(1)(a)exists before the Court is required to embark on the exercise of reviewing allof the evidence. Where the Crown case against an appellant is strong or indeedoverwhelming, it will be very difficult to point to a foundation for an appealunder s 385(1)(a). Further, in performing any review of the evidence, regardmust also be had to the existence of the jury verdict. The appellate court doesnot approach the review of the evidence de novo, but rather factors the juryverdict into its decision. It remains for the appellant to make out this groundof appeal: (Footnotes added.)[30] So far as inconsistent verdicts are concerned, these passages of the majorityjudgment of the Supreme Court in B (SC12/2013) v R are relevant:10(c) In relation to factual inconsistency arising from "guilty" and "notguilty" verdicts on a multiple count indictment against one defendant,the test is one of "logic and reasonableness". As the Court of Appealsaid in R v Irvine:[65]–[68].8 R v Ramage [1985] 1 NZLR 392 (CA).9 R v W (R) [1992] 2 SCR 122 (SCC).10 B (SC12/2013) v R [2013] NZSC 151, [2014] 1 NZLR 261 at [68] (footnotes omitted).The question which we must ask ourselves is whetherthe acquittal on count one, in all the circumstances of thisparticular case, renders the verdict of guilty in respect of counttwo unsafe, in the sense that no reasonable jury could havearrived at different verdicts on the two different counts.(d) Courts are reluctant to conclude that jury verdicts are inconsistent,both because the jury's function must be respected and because thereis general satisfaction with the way juries perform their role. If thereis some evidence to support the verdict said to be inconsistent, anappellate court will not usurp the jury's function by substituting itsview of the facts for that of the jury. We note in this connection thatthe Court of Appeal emphasised in R v O (No 2) that any reasonableexplanation for the difference between the two verdicts "must befound in the evidence properly used". The Court said:It will not be a reasonable explanation if it depends on a use ofevidence or a process of reasoning which the law does notpermit.In addition, the majority judgment in MacKenzie acknowledged thatan appellate court "may conclude that the jury took a 'merciful' viewof the facts upon one count: a function which has always been opento, and often exercised by, juries". The Court of Appeal accepted thisview in R v H, a case to which we will return.(e) There will be cases where the different verdicts returned by a juryrepresent "an affront to logic and commonsense which is unacceptableand strongly suggests a compromise of the performance of the jury'sduty". In such cases an appellate court will intervene. Hard and fastrules are not possible; rather, the assessment must be made on a caseby case basis. In R v Pittiman, the Supreme Court of Canada said thatinconsistent verdicts may be held to be unreasonable "whenthe evidence on one count is so wound up with the evidence onthe other that it is not logically separable".(f) The obligation to establish inconsistency rests with the personchallenging the conviction. Where inconsistency is established,the court must make such consequential orders as the justice ofthe case requires.[31] TL, in his first EVI, said that KL had touched his penis on more than oneoccasion while TL was in bed at night. That was his core allegation. He did not changehis evidence under cross-examination. He was six years old when he made his firstEVI and seven years old when he gave evidence at the trial.[32] The jury saw and heard TL give his evidence. It had to form a view of hisreliability and his credibility having regard to all of the evidence. In doing so, the juryundoubtedly took into account TL's young age and how that influenced his ability torecount what happened to him.[33] KL mounted a strong defence. He gave and called evidence that suggested VShad planned to leave KL for some time and that she did not want to share day-to-daycare of TL. KL's case was that VS coached TL in what to say, and there was evidencethat TL, as an even younger child, had been coached to appear in videos advertisingthe family's business.[34] It is not unreasonable for the jury to have accepted TL's core allegation inCharge 1 but, because of the defence case, to have been left unsure on the rest ofthe charges. It is axiomatic that a jury does not have to accept everything that a witnesssays, or reject everything that a witness says. Indeed, there is a standard directionfrom the Judge to that effect.[35] We do not accept Mr Dodds' submission that evidence given by TL as tothe tunnel, the frequency of the offending, the sleeping in the brewery, and of makingmultiple complaints to VS, make TL's evidence so unreliable that it was unreasonableof the jury to accept anything TL said about KL's actions. The jury was entitled toassess TL's evidence in the context of his young age and to decide what parts of hisevidence could be relied upon beyond reasonable doubt. That is part of the role ofthe jury.[36] Similarly, if the jury accepted TL's core allegation (as it clearly did) that KLtouched his penis in bed at night, but was left unsure of what else happened, thenthe acquittals on Charges 2 to 7 are not inconsistent verdicts.[37] Mr Dodds' strongest argument on inconsistency is the acquittal on Charge 2.The allegation being that KL grabbed TL's hand and moved it towards KL's penis onthe occasions when TL said KL touched TL's penis. But TL's evidence on this chargewas not very clear. He said that is what KL did, but said that he ripped his hand away.He never alleged any contact on those occasions between his hand and KL's penis.The jury could logically have considered that if KL was trying to put TL's hand on hispenis then, given the disparity in strength, he would have succeeded. Further, TL didnot explain how he knew that KL was trying to put TL's hand on KL's penis. We regardthis acquittal as showing that the jury was conscientiously aware of the onus andstandard of proof.[38] Charges 3 and 4 related to KL showering with TL. There was no contest thatthe two showered together from time to time as a matter of household routine.KL gave evidence that when TL was very young he would wash TL all over, but thatby the time of the alleged offending TL could wash his own body and KL would washTL's hair. KL said that to rinse TL's hair he would pick him up to be nearer tothe shower head, and that TL would draw designs in the condensation on the wall ofthe cubicle.[39] It was open to the jury to find either that TL misrepresented innocent contactor there was a reasonable possibility that VS coached or influenced TL in this regard.[40] Charges 5 and 6 (KL squeezing TL's throat while touching his penis) arosefrom the second EVI. There is an element of inherent incredibility in what TLdescribes, and the defence of coaching might well have left reasonable doubt.[41] Charge 7, being the indecent act on TL on 30 June 2019, arises from TL'sevidence in his first EVI as to the last time KL touched his penis. The charge specifiedthe date of 30 June 2019. TL's evidence was it occurred on 1 July 2019. He wassix years old when he gave the EVI. Charge 1, on the other hand, was a representativecharge covering the period 16 April 2015 to 1 July 2019. It is not illogical, and notinconsistent with the conviction on Charge 1, for the jury to enter an acquittal onCharge 7 because it was unsure of the date on which the last incident of touchingoccurred, but it was sure that it was nevertheless covered by the period specified inCharge 1.[42] We disagree with Mr Dodds' submission that the finding of guilty on Charge 1,and the acquittals on the other charges, point to illegitimate compromise. In otherwords, that in order to return verdicts on all charges one or more jurors found KLguilty on Charge 1 when that was not their true finding. In this case, all thatthe submission means is that logically the verdict on Charge 1 was unreasonable orinconsistent with the other verdicts. In our view, for the reasons already given, that isnot so.[43] The ground of appeal relating to unreasonable and inconsistent verdicts mustaccordingly fail.Second ground of appeal — miscarriage of justice arising from further evidence[44] Subsequent to the trial, KL obtained from Oranga Tamariki a Report ofConcern (the ROC) made by a social worker of VS's first telephone call to OrangaTamariki (on 7 July 2019) reporting TL's disclosure to her of KL's offending. Thiswas disclosed to KL's counsel on 21 May 2021 following a ruling of the District Courtas to non-party disclosure. KL applies for leave to adduce the record as fresh evidenceto be considered in this appeal.[45] Technically, the evidence is not fresh since it could have been obtained pre-trialthrough an application for non-party disclosure. But, we would admit it if it werecredible and cogent to KL's contention at trial that VS influenced TL to make moreserious disclosures. That would be required in the interests of justice. However, wehave decided the evidence has insufficient cogency to be admitted as fresh evidenceon appeal.[46] The ROC relevantly summarises VS's call as follows:This morning [TL] has disclosed that his father has asked him to touch hispenis. She didn't want to ask too many questions and asked him "how did itmake you feel", [TL] replied "it made me feel sad" and she told [TL] that itwas not okay for anyone to touch his penis. She asked [TL] whether poppahas taken any photos of him without clothes on and he said "no".[TL] and his mother were cuddling in bed together, he was wriggling andjiggling and he started to play with himself, the caller said that she told [TL]to go into his own room if he was going to play with himself as this is not whatyou should be doing with anyone present especially an adult, this is when [TL]said that poppa has asked him to touch his penis, this has happened on2 occasions the most recent just before they left [47] Mr Dodds submits that had the ROC been available at trial it would have addedcogent weight to the defence case that TL's evidence was the product of VS's coaching.He argues that its absence from the trial created a real risk of a miscarriage of justice.[48] We do not accept this submission for the following reasons:(a) The ROC is clearly not a verbatim record and it is ambiguous. It is notclear whose penis was to be touched, or how TL's reported remarkrelated to TL touching his own penis at the time of the remark.(b) The defence case about escalating complaints due to coaching wasbefore the jury anyway.(c) It is commonplace for child complainants to disclose abuse serially asthey become more comfortable talking about the abuse.(d) Significantly, VS was cross-examined by Mr Dodds on makingthe report to Oranga Tamariki. VS accepted that she "would have told"Oranga Tamariki what TL had said to her. VS then agreed that the nextstep in the inquiry process was Oranga Tamariki arranging achild-focused interview. Mr Dodds asked VS:Q. So, when Oranga Tamariki put the [child-focused interviewprocess] in place the only disclosure at that stage [TL] hadmade was one that Papa had asked to touch his penis. That'sthe only disclosure he had made as at 16th July, isn't it?A. I don't understand the question.Q. Okay, well let me just take you back a bit. You say 7 July[TL] makes some disclosures to you and you make a report ofconcern to Oranga Tamariki, right?A. That's correct.Q. And then Oranga Tamariki as part of their process they havethis child focused interview. At the time of the child focusedinterview the only disclosure [TL] had made was that his Papahad asked to touch his penis?A. Are you saying is that the disclosure he made in the childfocused interview?Q. No, I am saying it was the only disclosure he had made toanyone before that child focused interview? The onlydisclosure [TL] had made to anyone to your knowledge beforethe [child-focused interview] took place, was that [TL] saidhis father had asked to touch his penis.A. He had said to me in the [friend's] bedroom, when I had askedhim to stop fondling himself in the bed with me and he saidto me: "Why? Papa does it all the time." That's the originaldisclosure that he made to me. He also made a disclosureearlier than that in the house when he called out and said:"Ouch, you're pinching my penis. Stop", so I'm not entirelysure what you're asking, if you're asking a disclosure of me,are you asking if I know that he has disclosed to anybody else,or are you asking about –Q. – no. So, going back to what you say [TL] disclosed to you7 July, are you telling us that [TL] was wriggling and touchinghis penis and that he said Papa does this all the time?A. He was wriggling, yes, and fondling and basicallymasturbating at the age of six years old, and I said: "What areyou doing? You can't do that in bed next to me" and he said:"Why not? Papa does this with me all the time". He said itlike it was 100% normal to him and my blood ran cold,Mr Dodds, because it's not normal.Q. And is that all that he said to you?A. No, that's not all that he said to me. I did ask him a couple ofquestions to try to establish what he meant, because this isexactly what a mother doesn't want to hear.Q. Well, I will come back to that. So, are you telling us that thisdisclosure that [TL] made to you 7 July was not one where[TL] said to you that his father had asked to touch his penis?A. I don't understand your question. It's not clear. What do youmean?Q. Well, on 7 July did [TL] say to you that his father had askedto touch his penis?A. Yes. He said touching would go both ways.Q. My question was whether [TL] had said to you whether hisfather had asked to touch his penis. Is that what he told you?A. He told me that touching would happen both ways. He wouldtouch him and they would – both ways, was myunderstanding. This was a conversation with a six year oldboy who I was trying not to alarm, and I was trying not toshow how upset I was, and I was also trying to establish whathad happened, what he meant, why this sounded so normal tohim.Q. The only thing, [VS], that [TL] said to you on 7 July was thathis father had asked to touch his penis, nothing else?A. That's not what I just said.(Emphasis added.)[49] Mr Dodds then went on to confront VS with the evidence of the defencewitnesses as to her plan to leave KL and her desire not to share day-to-day care of TLwith him.[50] Accordingly, if the ROC had been available, and if it was able to be put to VS,it would have had little effect. It was not a complete record, and although we acceptit might have been of some assistance in challenging VS's evidence of the disclosure,VS had already accepted in cross-examination that TL said that his father had askedto touch his penis. The issue then would be why the author of the ROC had notrecorded more. There could be various answers.[51] We accept Ms Johnston's submission for the Crown that the ROC wouldarguably have supported the Crown's case. As quoted above, under cross-examinationVS said that TL told her that the touching went both ways. She was challenged byMr Dodds on the basis VS did not say that to the police in her statement. VS'sresponse was that this was a difficult time for her and she was doing the best she could.If the ROC had been admitted, the jury could have taken it as supporting VS's evidencethat TL disclosed to her that the alleged touching went "both ways".[52] In any event, the contents of the ROC were most relevant to Charge 2, butthe jury acquitted on that charge.[53] We conclude that the absence of the ROC from the trial did not lead to a realrisk of a miscarriage of justice. It is not enough for an appellant to point to evidencehelpful to the defence which was absent at trial, and assert it may have been helpful ormay well have affected the result.11 Nor is it enough to submit that cross-examinationmight have been more effective, provided the defence was put.12Decision[54] The application to adduce fresh evidence is declined.[55] The appeal is dismissed.Solicitors:Richard Mark, Kerikeri for AppellantCrown Law Office, Wellington for Respondent11 Loffley v R [2013] NZCA 579 at [59], citing R v Bain [2004] 1 NZLR 638 (CA) at [22]–[25].12 Hall v R [2015] NZCA 403, [2018] 2 NZLR 26 at [74]–[75].