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North Gauteng High Court, Pretoria

National Credit Regulator v Nedbank Ltd and Others (19638/2008) [2009] ZAGPPHC 377 (20 November 2009)

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Holding and result

The court found that paragraph 11 of its previous order was granted in the precise terms requested by the applicant and does not constitute an error. The alleged ambiguity raised by the second respondent does not justify amendment by this court, especially as the order is currently subject to appeal before the Supreme Court of Appeal. The court held that any amendment to the order should be determined by the appellate court, not by the court of first instance. Accordingly, the application to amend the order was dismissed.

Court disposition

Application to amend the court's order is dismissed.

Orders

  • The application to amend paragraph 11 of the court's order is dismissed.

02

Material facts

Parties

National Credit Regulator

Applicant Counsel: Adv. C.D.A Loxton SC; Adv. M A Chohan

Nedbank Limited

Respondent Counsel: Adv. D.E. Van Loggerenberg SC

FirstRand Bank Limited

Respondent Counsel: Adv. G. Farter SC; Adv. N Konstantinides

Standard Bank of South Africa Limited

Respondent Counsel: Adv. M O Kuper SC; Adv. J M.A. Cane

ABSA Bank Limited

Respondent Counsel: Adv. G H Meyer

Credit Providers Association

Respondent

Furniture Traders Association

Respondent

Retail Motor Industry

Respondent

Minister of Justice and Constitutional Development

Respondent

Minister of Trade and Industry

Respondent

Debt Counsellors Association of South Africa

Respondent

Onecor (Proprietary) Limited

Respondent Counsel: Adv. P.F Louw SC; Adv. S Gouws

Johan Erik Juselius

Respondent Counsel: Adv. KJ. Kemp SC

03

Procedural history

  1. Posture

    Leave to Appeal / Application to Amend Court Order During Leave to Appeal

04

Questions and positions

Legal issues

Party arguments

Applicant
The applicant did not seek any amendment to paragraph 11 and maintains that the order was granted exactly as requested in the main application. The applicant contends that there is no error or ambiguity in the order as it stands.
Respondent
The second respondent, FirstRand Bank Limited, argued that the current wording of paragraph 11 may create practical difficulties in interpretation and sought to amend the order by adding 'whilst the consumer remains in default'. No other party raised similar concerns.

05

Court’s reasoning

  1. 01

    General principles of South African civil procedure

    A court may amend its order if there is an ambiguity or error, but where the order is subject to appeal, such amendment should be left to the appellate court.

  2. 02

    General principles of South African civil procedure

    An order granted in the exact terms sought by the applicant is not the result of an error and does not warrant amendment unless ambiguity is proven.

06

Ratio, limits and disposition

Ratio decidendi

The court found that paragraph 11 of its previous order was granted in the precise terms requested by the applicant and does not constitute an error. The alleged ambiguity raised by the second respondent does not justify amendment by this court, especially as the order is currently subject to appeal before the Supreme Court of Appeal. The court held that any amendment to the order should be determined by the appellate court, not by the court of first instance. Accordingly, the application to amend the order was dismissed.

Obiter and limits

  • No other party besides the second respondent raised concerns regarding the interpretation of paragraph 11.
  • The practical difficulties alleged by the second respondent do not amount to a legal ambiguity warranting amendment by this court.

Court disposition

Application to amend the court's order is dismissed.

  • The application to amend paragraph 11 of the court's order is dismissed.

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North Gauteng High Court, Pretoria

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North Gauteng High Court, Pretoria

Order

[2009] ZAGPPHC 377

IN THE NORTH GAUTENG HIGH COURT, PRETORIA

(REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA)

DATE: 20 NOVEMBER 2009

NOT

REPORTABLE

NOT

OF INTEREST TO TOHER JUDGES

CASE NUMBER: 19638/2008

In the matter between:

THE

NATIONAL CREDIT

REGULATOR APPLICANT

And

NEDBANK

LIMITED

FIRST

RESPONDENT

FIRSTRAND

BANK LIMITED

SECOND

RESPONDENT

STANDARD

BANK OF SOUTH AFRICA LIMITED THIRD

RESPONDENT

ABSA

BANK LIMITED

FOURTH

RESPONDENT

THE

CREDIT PROVIDERS ASSOCIATION

FIFTH

RESPONDENT

THE

FURNITURE TRADERS ASSOCIATION

SIXTH

RESPONDENT

RETAIL

MOTOR INDUSTRY

SEVENTH

RESPONDENT

THE

MINSITER OF JUSTICE AND

EIGHTH

RESPONDENT

CONSITUTIONAL

DEVELOPMENT

THE

MINSITER OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY

NINTH

RESPONDENT

THE

DEBT COUSELLORS ACCOCAITION

TENTH

RESPONDENT

OF

SOUTH AFRICA

ONECOR PROPRIETARY) LIMITED

ELEVENTH

RESPONDENT

JUSELIUS.

JOHAN ERIK

TWELVE

RESPONDENT

Du Plossls, J:

In the course of the application for leave to appeal the second respondent in the main application (First Rand Bank Limited) sought

an order to amend paragraph 11 of this court's order by adding thereto the words “whilst the consumer remains In default”.

The contention is that the order as It stands creates or might create practical difficulties with its interpretation. No other party raised the same or a similar problem.

Paragraph 11 was granted exactly in the terms that the applicant in the main application sought. Consequently, the order as it stands is not the result of an error. To the extent that this court might have the power to amend the order by reason of an ambiguity, the order is the subject of an appeal to the Supreme Court of Appeal. In my view the question as to whether the order should be amended should be left to that court.

The application to amend this court's order is dismissed.

______

B

R DU PLESSIS

JUDGE

OF THE HIGH COURT

On behalf of the Applicant: Mothle

Jooma Sabdia Inc

Floor, West Wing

Duncan Manor

Cnr. Duncan & Brooks Street

BROOKLYN

PRETORIA

P O Box 11147 HatfieW 0023

Adv. C.D.A LOXTONSC

Adv M A Chohan

On behalf of the First to Sixth

Respondents: Werksmans

Inc.

C/O Edelstein Bosman

220 Lange Street

Nieuw Muckleneuck

Adv M O Kuper SC J

Adv J M.A. Cane

On behalf of the first

Respondent: Adv.

D.E. Van Loggerenberg SC

Respondents: Werksmans

Inc.

On Behalf of the

Second Respondents: Van

Hulsteyns Attorneys

C/O Savage Jooste and Adams

141 Boshoff Street

Nieuw Mucklenuek

Adv. G. Farter (SC)

Adv. N Konstantinides

On behalf of the

Fourth Respondent: Jay

Motohbi Inc.

C/O Savage Jooste and Acams

Nieuw Mucfcleneucfc

Adv. G H Meyer

On behalf of the Fifth and

Sixth Respondent: Routiedge

Modisa

C/0 Adams & Adams

1140 Prospect Street Hatfield

Pretoria

On behalf of the Eighth and

Ninth Respondents: The

State Attorney

8th Floor, Bothongo Heights

167 Andres Street

Eleventh Respondent: Coombe

& Associates

Cnr. Watloo & Fiamink Streets

Silverton

Adv. P.F Louw SC

Adv S Gouws

Twelfth Respondent: Booysens

& CO Inc.

C/O Velile Tinto & Assoc. Inc

Tinto House

Cnr Hans Sirijdom & Disselboom

Wapadrand

Adv KJ. Kemp SC J

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