R. v. Ali
- Citation
- 2020 BCSC 2012
- Status
- Judgment
- Jurisdiction
- Canada
- Court
- Supreme Court of British Columbia
- Decision
- 23 November 2020
- Posture
- Criminal Voir Dire Regarding Voluntariness of Post‑arrest Statement / Oral Ruling on Voir Dire (pretrial)
- Language
- English
More details
- Court
- Supreme Court of British Columbia
- Decision
- 23 November 2020
- Posture
- Criminal Voir Dire Regarding Voluntariness of Post‑arrest Statement / Oral Ruling on Voir Dire (pretrial)
- Language
- English
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Research organized from the available case record
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Holding and result
Evidence of translation from Arabic to English may be given by police officers who were participants in the conversations (Corporal Harfouche and Constable Alam); any shortcomings in translation affect the weight of the evidence, not its admissibility; the defence's objection is overruled but the defence may still apply pretrial for a court‑appointed expert.
Court disposition
Defence objection overruled.
Orders
- Crown permitted to tender audio/video recordings and translation transcripts through Corporal Harfouche and Constable Alam as participants who will testify to the accuracy of translations.
- Defence permission retained to bring a pretrial application for appointment of an expert translator; ruling does not preclude such relief.
02
Material facts
Parties
Regina
Crown Counsel: D.J. Porte; I.A. Keeley; J.A. KhanIbrahim Ali
Accused Counsel: K. McCullough; B.S. Lynskey03
Procedural history
Posture
Criminal Voir Dire Regarding Voluntariness of Post‑arrest Statement / Oral Ruling on Voir Dire (pretrial)
04
Questions and positions
Legal issues
- 01
Whether translation transcripts may be tendered through police witnesses who were participants in the conversation
- 02
Whether the Crown must call the translator or the court must appoint an independent expert translator prior to trial
- 03
Whether police participants giving translation evidence must be qualified as experts
Party arguments
- Applicant
- Defence argued it is improper for the Crown not to call the translator who prepared the typed English translations and that the statements should be translated by a court‑appointed expert to avoid trial mayhem and ensure accurate translation.
- Respondent
- Crown proposed to tender audio/video recordings and the typed translations through two RCMP members (Corporal Harfouche and Constable Alam) who were present for and participants in the statements, fluent in Arabic and English, and who proofread and verified the translations; Crown relied on authority that participant witnesses testify as participants not as experts and that shortcomings go to weight not admissibility.
05
Court’s reasoning
Legal principles
- 01
R. v. Tan, 2014 BCCA 9; McWilliams' Canadian Criminal Evidence, ch.22
A participant or contemporaneous listener to a foreign‑language conversation may give translation testimony as to what was said; shortcomings affect weight not admissibility.
- 02
McWilliams' Canadian Criminal Evidence; R. v. Tan
Evidence tendered by witnesses who are parties to the conversation is given in their capacity as participants and need not be styled as expert evidence.
- 03
Oral ruling of Bernard J., R. v. Ali, 2020 BCSC 2012
The court may appoint an expert when necessary, but the desire to avoid trial mayhem alone does not justify excluding otherwise admissible evidence.
06
Ratio, limits and disposition
Ratio decidendi
Evidence of translation from Arabic to English may be given by police officers who were participants in the conversations (Corporal Harfouche and Constable Alam); any shortcomings in translation affect the weight of the evidence, not its admissibility; the defence's objection is overruled but the defence may still apply pretrial for a court‑appointed expert.
Obiter and limits
- The concern about potential trial mayhem is not a sound basis to exclude evidence that complies with the rules of evidence.
- This ruling does not preclude the defence from making a pretrial application for a court‑appointed expert translator.
Court disposition
Defence objection overruled.
- Crown permitted to tender audio/video recordings and translation transcripts through Corporal Harfouche and Constable Alam as participants who will testify to the accuracy of translations.
- Defence permission retained to bring a pretrial application for appointment of an expert translator; ruling does not preclude such relief.
Source and reliance status
Supreme Court of British Columbia · 23 November 2020
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Judgment text
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Supreme Court of British Columbia
Judgment· 23 November 2020
2020 BCSC 2012 R. v. Ali
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF BRITISH COLUMBIA Citation: R. v. Ali, 2020 BCSC 2012 Date: 20201123 Docket: 29405‑1; 29405‑18 Registry: Vancouver Regina v. Ibrahim Ali Restriction on Publication: Pursuant to 486.5(1) & 486.5(9) C.C.C. Before: The Honourable Mr. Justice Bernard Oral Ruling on Voir Dire re Translation of Statements Counsel for the Crown: D.J. Porte I.A. Keeley J.A. Khan Counsel for the Accused: K. McCullough B.S. Lynskey Place and Dates of Trial: Vancouver, B.C. November 3 and 4, 2020 Place and Date of Judgment: Vancouver, B.C. November 23, 2020 [1] THE COURT: In the context of a voir dire to determine the voluntariness of a post‑arrest statement of the accused, given in the Arabic language, the defence raises objection to the means by which the Crown proposes to tender evidence of the translation of these statements into the English language. More specifically, the defence submits that: a) it is improper for the Crown not to call as a witness the translator and instead tender the evidence through witnesses who were not present for the whole statement; and, b) the statements should be translated by an expert appointed by the Court. [2] Typewritten English translations of the video and audio‑recorded statements exist and have been disclosed to the defence. These translations were created by a "Special I" employee of the RCMP in Newmarket, Ontario, at the request of the
IHIT investigators in the instant case. [3] The Crown says its intention is to tender the audio/video recordings of the statements and the translation transcripts of these recordings, through the two RCMP members, Corporal Harfouche and Constable Alam, who were present for, and direct participants in, these post‑arrest statements of the accused. These RCMP members are fluent in both English and Arabic. [4] The Crown anticipates that each of these police witnesses will give evidence as to the accuracy of their respective portions of the translation transcripts. Each will say that he carefully proofread them using the audio/video recordings as the reference, and that he satisfied himself as to the accuracy of the translation, save for a few corrections which have been noted, disclosed, and to which each will testify. [5] The Crown says it does not intend to tender Corporal Harfouche and Constable Alam as expert witnesses because they were parties to the conversations leading up to, and including, the statement in issue for its voluntariness. [6] In support of this position, the Crown cites The Honourable S. Casey Hill, David M. Tanovich & Louis P. Strezos, eds, McWilliams' Canadian Criminal Evidence, 5th ed. (Toronto: Thomson Reuters, 2019) [McWilliams'] at chapter 22, 10.30, and R. v. Tan, 2014 BCCA 9 [Tan]. [7] In relation to tendering foreign language statements in court,
McWilliams' says that where ordinary witnesses testify in English as to the contents of a foreign‑language conversation to which they were a party, these witnesses do not do so as experts, but rather as participants in that conversation. [8] Consistent with McWilliams', in Tan, the court recognized that a police officer who was a participant and contemporaneous listener to a foreign‑language conversation with an accused may give translation testimony as to what the accused said. If there are shortcomings in that translation, they go to the weight of the translation evidence and not to its admissibility (at paras. 88-89). [9] The defence cited no authority contrary to this relatively recent re-statement of the law by our Court of Appeal, and I am satisfied that it addresses and disposes of the defence's objection. Accordingly, evidence of translation from Arabic to English may be given by Corporal Harfouche and Constable Alam in their capacities as participants in the conversations leading to, and including, the statement in issue for its voluntariness. [10] The defence has cautioned the Court that there will be mayhem at the trial if the statement is not translated by an expert appointed by the Court for the purpose of reaching consensus in relation to the translation. While it is always desirable to avoid trial mayhem, so long as what the Crown proposes to tender in its case
in this voir dire is not contrary to the rules of evidence, the desire to avoid mayhem at the trial is not a sound basis to sustain the objection. [11] For these reasons, the objection is overruled. As it was not necessary to address the defence's position that the court should appoint an expert for purpose of determining, prior to the commencement of the jury trial, what Mr. Ali said, this ruling does not preclude the defence from making a pretrial application for such relief. "Bernard J."
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