R. v. Kubesch
- Citation
- 2025 ONCA 763
- Status
- Judgment
- Jurisdiction
- Canada
- Court
- Court of Appeal for Ontario
- Decision
- 7 November 2025
- Posture
- Criminal Appeal (sentence) / Court of Appeal Decision on Sentence Appeal
- Language
- English
More details
- Court
- Court of Appeal for Ontario
- Decision
- 7 November 2025
- Posture
- Criminal Appeal (sentence) / Court of Appeal Decision on Sentence Appeal
- Language
- English
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01
Holding and result
The trial judge properly exercised sentencing discretion: there was no basis to award credit for custody during the suspension period absent an abuse of process or adequate record, the 1:1.3 credit for harsh pre-trial lockdowns was justified given dangerous offender status and poor prospects for early release, and the sentence was fit for the objectives of denunciation and deterrence; therefore the sentence appeal fails.
Court disposition
Leave to appeal granted; sentence appeal dismissed.
Orders
- Leave to appeal granted
- Sentence appeal dismissed
- Original sentence and credit as imposed by the trial judge confirmed
02
Material facts
Parties
His Majesty the King
Respondent Counsel: Étienne LacombePaul Kubesch
AppellantAmounts and remedies
- Net Sentence (months): 20
- Gross Sentence (months): 22
- Pre Sentence Custody Credit Awarded (days): 60
- Days Served Prior to Sentencing (days): 46
- Days Claimed by Appellant for Credit (days): 90
03
Procedural history
Posture
Criminal Appeal (sentence) / Court of Appeal Decision on Sentence Appeal
04
Questions and positions
Legal issues
- 01
Whether pre-charge custody during suspension of a long-term supervision order counts as pre-sentence custody credit
- 02
Whether enhanced pre-sentence credit (1:1.5) or additional Duncan credit should have been awarded for harsh pre-trial conditions
- 03
Whether the imposed sentence was fit given objectives of denunciation, deterrence and rehabilitation
Party arguments
- Applicant
- Appellant argued he should receive credit for days held in custody after his long-term supervision order was suspended and before charges were laid (claiming 90 days), alleged delay was tactical to deny credit, argued trial judge should have applied 1:1.5 credit and granted additional Duncan credit for harsh detention and that the sentence was imposed to secure federal treatment which did not occur.
- Respondent
- Crown asserted the agreed period of pre-sentence custody at sentencing was 46 days (resulting in 60 days' credit), no abuse of process was raised at trial and record is inadequate to support tactical delay allegation, authority supports denying credit for suspension period and the trial judge permissibly exercised discretion to award 1:1.3 credit and a fit sentence aimed at denunciation and deterrence.
05
Court’s reasoning
Legal principles
- 01
R. v. Bourdon, 2012 ONCA 256; R. v. Ipeelee, 2009 ONCA 892 (rev'd on other grounds 2012 SCC 13)
A long-term supervision order continues to run pending sentencing and may affect entitlement to enhanced pre-sentence credit.
- 02
R. v. Wilson, 2010 BCCA 65; Larrivée c. R., 2020 QCCA 1774
Periods during which a long-term supervision order is suspended before charges are laid do not necessarily attract pre-sentence credit if the offender is subsequently charged and convicted.
- 03
Judicial discretion and sentencing principles as applied in the reasons
Awarding enhanced pre-sentence credit for harsh conditions of custody is discretionary and entitled to appellate deference where supported by evidence.
06
Ratio, limits and disposition
Ratio decidendi
The trial judge properly exercised sentencing discretion: there was no basis to award credit for custody during the suspension period absent an abuse of process or adequate record, the 1:1.3 credit for harsh pre-trial lockdowns was justified given dangerous offender status and poor prospects for early release, and the sentence was fit for the objectives of denunciation and deterrence; therefore the sentence appeal fails.
Obiter and limits
- Appellate courts have held that offenders subsequently charged and convicted receive no sentence credit for the period their long-term supervision order was suspended before a charge is laid (R. v. Wilson; Larrivée c. R.).
- Counsel's failure to request credit or to raise abuse of process at sentencing limits appellate review and may preclude relief.
Court disposition
Leave to appeal granted; sentence appeal dismissed.
- Leave to appeal granted
- Sentence appeal dismissed
- Original sentence and credit as imposed by the trial judge confirmed
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Court of Appeal for Ontario · 7 November 2025
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Court of Appeal for Ontario
Judgment· 7 November 2025
R. v. Kubesch Collection Decisions of the Court of Appeal Date 2025-11-07 Neutral citation 2025 ONCA 763 Docket numbers COA-24-CR-1382 Judges Miller, Bradley; Paciocco, David M.; Favreau, Lise G. Subject Criminal Decision Content
COURT OF APPEAL FOR ONTARIO CITATION: R. v. Kubesch, 2025 ONCA 763 DATE: 20251107 DOCKET: COA-24-CR-1382 Miller, Paciocco, Favreau JJ.A.
BETWEEN His Majesty the King Respondent and Paul Kubesch Appellant Paul Kubesch, acting in person Étienne Lacombe, for the respondent Heard: November 4, 2025 On appeal from the sentence imposed by Justice Richard Nathanson of the Ontario Court of Justice on December 5, 2024.
REASONS FOR DECISION [1] Mr. Kubesch, who has an extensive record of child sexual offences dating back to 1996, was declared a dangerous offender on May 10, 2022, and placed on a long-term supervision order after being convicted of a brazen sexual assault of a four-year old child that occurred in public, in a store, in the brief moments when the child became separated from her parents. On October 4, 2024, he was convicted of breaching that long-term supervision order as well as two prohibition orders made under s. 161 of the Criminal Code, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-46, after he attended a religious service in a church in the immediate presence of numerous children, a mere 30 days after being released to the Keele Street Community Correctional Centre. The trial judge imposed a net sentence of 20 months, including 60 days of credit for serving 46 days prior to being sentenced, after the trial judge considered the harsh conditions of his pre-sentence custody. [2] Mr. Kubesch, whose bifurcated conviction appeal is pending in the solicitor stream, argued his sentence appeal before us in inmate appeal court, unassisted by duty counsel. After oral submissions were completed, we granted leave to appeal his sentence but denied his sentence appeal for reasons to follow. These are our reasons. [3] Mr. Kubesch argues that he should have been given sentence credit for the days he was held in
custody after his long-term supervision order was suspended and before charges for the breaches were laid. He submits that the delay in charging him was tactical, intended to prevent him from earning pre-sentence custody credit. His lawyer did not request credit for this period during the sentencing hearing, but instead agreed with the Crown that the duration of Mr. Kubesch’s pre-sentence custody at issue was 46 days. His lawyer also did not raise an abuse of process argument and the record on appeal is inadequate to address whether the delay in his being charged was tactical. There is no basis in those circumstances for finding that the trial judge erred in failing to give the 90 days of credit Mr. Kubesch is now claiming. We therefore dismissed this ground of appeal. Although the issue was not argued before us, we also note that other appellate courts have held that, if subsequently charged and convicted, offenders receive no sentence credit for the period their long-term supervision order was suspended before a charge is laid: R. v. Wilson, 2010 BCCA 65 at paras. 13-20, 252 C.C.C. (3d) 117, leave to appeal refused, [2010] S.C.C.A. 108; Larrivée c. R., 2020 QCCA 1774, at paras. 16-31, leave to appeal refused, [2021] S.C.C.A. No. 63. [4] Mr. Kubesch also argued that the trial judge erred by allocating pre-sentence credit at a ratio of 1:1.3, instead of 1:1.5, and for refusing
to grant an additional Duncan credit for the harsh conditions of detention he endured while in custody prior to being sentenced. We denied this ground of appeal because the trial judge’s determination is entitled to deference and was grounded in both authority and the record. Specifically, there is authority supporting the denial of enhanced credit for pre-sentence custody experienced when on a long-term supervision order, since the long-term supervision order continues to run pending sentencing: R. v. Bourdon, 2012 ONCA 256, 110 O.R. (3d) 168, at para. 17; R. v. Ipeelee, 2009 ONCA 892, 99 O.R. (3d) 419, at para. 10, rev’d on other grounds, 2012 SCC 13, [2012] 1 S.C.R.
433. The trial judge decided not to award a credit of 1:1.5 given that Mr. Kubesch was not a strong candidate for early release due to his criminal history and dangerous offender status. He did award credit at a rate of 1:1.3 because Mr. Kubesch experienced many lockdowns while incarcerated, which results in “considerably harsher time in pre-trial custody”. We see no basis for interfering with this decision. The trial judge was entitled to make the findings that he did on the evidence before him and to exercise his discretion in this way. [5] The final argument Mr. Kubesch pursued before us was based on his submission that the trial judge imposed the gross sentence of 22 months so that Mr. Kubesch would be detained long enough to obtain treatment in the federal system, but he has in fact served his time in provincial institutions and has not had access to rehabilitation. Mr. Kubesch misreads the sentencing decision. The trial judge imposed the sentence he did with the primary objective of denouncing and deterring the breaches of the orders by Mr. Kubesch. This struck at the heart of the protective objective of the long-term supervision order, in circumstances that posed a serious risk to children, given Mr. Kubesch’s history and the fact that he committed the index offence which led to the long-term supervision order while under a s. 161 prohibition. We dismissed this ground of appeal because the sentence imposed was fit and arrived at without error [6] Leave to appeal the sentence is granted, but the sentence appeal is dismissed. “B.W. Miller J.A.” “David M. Paciocco J.A.” “L. Favreau J.A.”
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